Bosses of Warcraft 0.59

[Sverkerman]

IT IS DONE! I just need to finish the youtube vid + description now. Stay tuned!

 

[-Bloody Hound-]

http://clanravh.palstani.com/ THIS FORUM DUDE ! also it is almost 2001/05/02 .. well it will be in 2 H so ... Sup? x] i dont know policy about links here :/ sorry if i cant do that for some reason.I might be wrong. x]

 

[Sverkerman]

Released.

Preview pic should be up soon.

 

[nikoc]

Excellent map 5/5

 

[Razosh]

Exept for the fact that you ub33r failed on the 5 man dungons so that the first boss 1 shots everyone who has cloth gear it's extremly good. But since you and Hagge are fixing it right now I'll say 5/5 and + rep within 24 hours.

And I'd want to ask why dont the Signatures show on the forum? And also make a boss fight with the Windrunner sisters as friendly NPC:s as I told you on the forum

 

[Sverkerman]

Exept for the fact that you ub33r failed on the 5 man dungons so that the first boss 1 shots everyone who has cloth gear it's extremly good. But since you and Hagge are fixing it right now I'll say 5/5 and + rep within 24 hours.

And I'd want to ask why dont the Signatures show on the forum? And also make a boss fight with the Windrunner sisters as friendly NPC:s as I told you on the forum

Fixing it as I am typing...

Hm, the bossfight which you suggested is highly interesting... I haven't done anything like it before so I think it might be added in 0.60

 

[Razosh]

Hurray

 

[Abedab]

Very fun map and more should play it so it's easier to host

 

[Druu]

Got bored, couldn't play since I was alone. I couldn't cheat to take a look at the terrain, so in the end. It was worthless to download this map. Thanks.

 

[Mute]

how to open the first gate ?

 

[Sverkerman]

Still people complaining about the gate? Read description guys. CLEARLY says that it is not a game for 1 player but for 2-10.

 

[speezy]

downloaded and starting playing, but there's a problem that i got booted out of the game once load finish

*Sorry, problem solved cause i played with vision*

 

[Cangor]

Really awesome map

 

[Bashruk]

This map is pure awesomeness! Please continue updating this map and adding new bosses . 5/5 without a doubt.

Edit: One question. Are there only 2 bosses for 5 player mode ? Because it very very hard to find 5 players but 10... I hope there will be more bosses on 5player mode.

 

[Sverkerman]

This map is pure awesomeness! Please continue updating this map and adding new bosses . 5/5 without a doubt.

Edit: One question. Are there only 2 bosses for 5 player mode ? Because it very very hard to find 5 players but 10... I hope there will be more bosses on 5player mode.

I will update the "what to come in next version" text later today. I am creating a fire boss with a new kind of a arena which I have never done before for 5 man.

Thank you so much for the support. This means alot to me and to Clan Ravenholdt.

 

[Mute]

plz add change log in details part .

and in Garena i need like 5 hour just to find 5 people ..... .

how about to add aggro system so warrior can keep aggro and this help you for new tactic for other bosses .

 

[Bashruk]

Oh and by the way, (is there)will there be a feature where you can reset the game after you die to a boss ? Because it's a pain to make a new game after we fail at something.

 

[Sverkerman]

Oh and by the way, (is there)will there be a feature where you can reset the game after you die to a boss ? Because it's a pain to make a new game after we fail at something.

Yes there will be but it requires about 30 hours. I might add this to 0.70 version but I am not certain just yet.

 

[-Bloody Hound-]

LOL.
Proffesion code is funny 3)))))) MUAHHAHHAHAHHAH !

 

[nafre]

Its good. I already tested it and everything was ok but there was a only a little characters. I hope you can add more characters.

 

[Sverkerman]

Its good. I already tested it and everything was ok but there was a only a little characters. I hope you can add more characters.

You obviously didn't test it as I told you in my map. Read the description, redo your review.

Otherwise I'll have to call a admin to remove your rating and your comment.

Thx.

 

[ap0calypse]

You obviously didn't test it as I told you in my map. Read the description, redo your review.

Otherwise I'll have to call a admin to remove your rating and your comment.

Thx.

Why so hostile? He did not even give you a review, just one of his thoughts.
There is no point in telling people to test maps YOUR way. Give them a little freedom in their actions...

If you want me to remove his comment/rating: fine by me, I will. But please try to understand that not everyone reads the description, and even if they did they may not want to give a review the way you asked it. And you can't force them to.

 

[Sverkerman]

Why so hostile? He did not even give you a review, just one of his thoughts.
There is no point in telling people to test maps YOUR way. Give them a little freedom in their actions...

If you want me to remove his comment/rating: fine by me, I will. But please try to understand that not everyone reads the description, and even if they did they may not want to give a review the way you asked it. And you can't force them to.

First off, I am not hostile.
Reviews like his will simply gets ignored and not even concidered.

He also made my avrage rating fall.

Do not rate unless you actually play the game and make the review as I requested.

Remove his rating if you may, Apo.

Thanks.

 

[ap0calypse]

As I said: he did NOT give you a review. Not every post in a map is a review!
And if you really think a single 4/5 will result in a visible decrease in your avarage rating, then let me provide you with a fact: it decreased with 0.58% (Yes, not even a single percent decrease - in hive rating system, it is a 0.029 decrease).

I think your attitude is hostile.
Instead of notifying him about that you don't want people to rate your map unless they provide enough information, you order him to redo his 'review' (which isn't a review at all in the first place).
Then you start 'threatening' with calling an admin.
You also say he did not play the game, which is a wild accusation. According to me, he did play the map, you just didn't get your facts straight, nor did you even TRY to understand his point.

And that's not all I have to say!
A 5/5 means the map is perfect
I have never given any map a 5/5 yet, just because I wouldn't know of any map that deserves it (whereas a "Director's Cut" is something different).
Being given a 4/5 is a privilege, not a punishment.

Seriously, I have removed his rating, but don't be such a dick.

 

[Sverkerman]

As I said: he did NOT give you a review. Not every post in a map is a review!
And if you really think a single 4/5 will result in a visible decrease in your avarage rating, then let me provide you with a fact: it decreased with 0.58% (Yes, not even a single percent decrease - in hive rating system, it is a 0.029 decrease).

I think your attitude is hostile.
Instead of notifying him about that you don't want people to rate your map unless they provide enough information, you order him to redo his 'review' (which isn't a review at all in the first place).
Then you start 'threatening' with calling an admin.
You also say he did not play the game, which is a wild accusation. According to me, he did play the map, you just didn't get your facts straight, nor did you even TRY to understand his point.

And that's not all I have to say!
A 5/5 means the map is perfect
I have never given any map a 5/5 yet, just because I wouldn't know of any map that deserves it (whereas a "Director's Cut" is something different).
Being given a 4/5 is a privilege, not a punishment.

Seriously, I have removed his rating, but don't be such a dick.

This conversation is over.

 

[A]mun]

Seriously, no retry? You have to open the map everytime you lose a boss fight?... How very inappropriate.

Fix that and people might play it again.

 

[ap0calypse]

This conversation is over.

If you cannot defend your own standpoint, then I can only assume I will never have to remove a rating again for such a triviality.
I despise people with an attitude like yours.

And I noticed something else: only 2 people here really rated like you wanted them to.
So does that mean I have to remove all other ratings as well? Or should they redo their reviews?
Most of them are 5/5's though... but does that really matter? If their review is bad, then you won't even consider them, so the rating shouldn't count.

(To be fair: the only two ratings left will be a 5/5 from s_o_c and a 4/5 from naitsirk).

 

[nature3186]

nice map!

 

[Sverkerman]

If you cannot defend your own standpoint, then I can only assume I will never have to remove a rating again for such a triviality.
I despise people with an attitude like yours.

And I noticed something else: only 2 people here really rated like you wanted them to.
So does that mean I have to remove all other ratings as well? Or should they redo their reviews?
Most of them are 5/5's though... but does that really matter? If their review is bad, then you won't even consider them, so the rating shouldn't count.

(To be fair: the only two ratings left will be a 5/5 from s o c and a 4/5 from naitsirk).

No thx. Do not mess with my rating when I do not ask you to do so.

 

[ap0calypse]

No thx. Do not mess with my rating when I do not ask you to do so.

I think you are forgetting that I am a moderator, not a civil helper.
I don't only act when people ask me to, but also when it is just the right thing to do.
Nobody has to ask me anything for me to remove a rating, and I don't have to remove a rating when I'm being asked to.

 

[s_o_c]

*For each 100 reputation I gain on this site I will create a new version of Bosses of Warcraft.

After realizing that this map is made purely to satisfy the ego of the map maker I choose not to support this map any longer. I'm sorry but your reactions in the conversations that took place made me see what kind of a person you are.
P.S. I'm not trying to insult you, just state the reasons of which I made this decision, if ap0calypse wants, he can remove my rating.

 

[ap0calypse]

if ap0calypse wants, he can remove my rating.

I certainly don't: you were one of the only ones who has provided enough information to give such a high rating.
I'm not here to boycot Sverkerman (even though he may hate me by now), I am trying to see to it that everything stays fair (and, Sverkerman: asking to get an 'unworthy' 4/5 removed, but not all unworthy 5/5's is NOT fair).

 

[Sverkerman]

Ap0 I do not hate people and certainly not you since you still are, my fav admin on this page. But I sometimes argue with people and that is just human

Also, S o c, You see the reason why I want to have a high average rating is because the map will get more popular then and not because I am a evil dreadlord which feeds on +rep and high ratings.

Also ive been working on this map idea for 6 years now and a comment such as "You do not have enough characters, I give you 4/5" is making me mad. He obviously didn't even try out the 10 available ones.

But enough of that now. I'm over it.

 

[Razosh]

Ok seriusly not enough characters? Who the eck would say that? 10 characters - 10 players that's extremly good. And besides isn't that why it's called classrun?

 

[aki15]

Looks nice
But is it playable for 1.26?

 

[Razosh]

It's playeble for the latest verision of warcraft 3 our clan played it 11 hours ago

 

[-Bloody Hound-]

Off topic:
I agree with "ap0calypse" i think i spelled it right.
This map is rated how "sverkerman" wanted, so after a one big tought about this all i redone my rating.There are alot of maps that are FAAAR better then "Bow".
Bow is a good map, also i dont know who said but i its not fair to add him rep or to give him rating 5/5 just for his satisfaction.
Back on topic:
About the map:
Terrain is alot improved... i give it a rate : 6.8 / 10
Icons are choosen very well.. 9.1 / 10 icons for attributes and armor and attack arent matching ...
Few unit model's are good.. 2.1 / 10
It is good idea to go and just fight a boss in a square box.. 2.1 / 10
Voice acting is verry verry well "made" 10 / 10
The save/load code is a FAWKING CRAWP! 1.1 / 10 for effort
Items are shown on hero(attachment's) 6.8 / 10 Because it looks lame on a hero that does have a weapon ... The standard "villager" model will improve it IMO.
A few things that "sverkerman" forgot to redo like items are still clickable for no reason.. and all the rest small thing's i will not rate or even consider rating.

So like thats the main things i saw in this map..

And after all the real my rating is :
5.42 and that is 2.71 out of 5 so my rating 3 is kinda like bonus cuz i should give it a 2 ..
And dont look my other ratings on other maps..Cuz from now on i will rate "fair-ly"

P.S. Sorry for bad english..

 

[aki15]

It's playeble for the latest verision of warcraft 3 our clan played it 11 hours ago

I have latest version of warcraft 3 and still players drop on start...

 

[Sverkerman]

Off topic:
I agree with "ap0calypse" i think i spelled it right.
This map is rated how "sverkerman" wanted, so after a one big tought about this all i redone my rating.There are alot of maps that are FAAAR better then "Bow".
Bow is a good map, also i dont know who said but i its not fair to add him rep or to give him rating 5/5 just for his satisfaction.
Back on topic:
About the map:
Terrain is alot improved... i give it a rate : 6.8 / 10
Icons are choosen very well.. 9.1 / 10 icons for attributes and armor and attack arent matching ...
Few unit model's are good.. 2.1 / 10
It is good idea to go and just fight a boss in a square box.. 2.1 / 10
Voice acting is verry verry well "made" 10 / 10
The save/load code is a FAWKING CRAWP! 1.1 / 10 for effort
Items are shown on hero(attachment's) 6.8 / 10 Because it looks lame on a hero that does have a weapon ... The standard "villager" model will improve it IMO.
A few things that "sverkerman" forgot to redo like items are still clickable for no reason.. and all the rest small thing's i will not rate or even consider rating.

So like thats the main things i saw in this map..

And after all the real my rating is :
5.42 and that is 2.71 out of 5 so my rating 3 is kinda like bonus cuz i should give it a 2 ..
And dont look my other ratings on other maps..Cuz from now on i will rate "fair-ly"

P.S. Sorry for bad english..

Some of the things I do not agree on. However, you made a really good review Burke besides that you do not know how it is to create a map. Like for an instance, if all had the villager model, fine would be great for attatchments! BUT, it would be way too unpersonal. For an instance, a warlock with just regular skin and no evil looking powers? A witch which doesn't make you get a chill to the core? Nah, Models are just fine as they are. Terrain improved? Agree. It is alot better. But since you gave me a 6.8 you need to tell me how can I improve the terrain? Same goes for icons. Which icons doesn't fit? And again, saving code is crap? ehh? Saving code is a creation of Hagge5, took him a lot of effort and as far as I know this is the absolutly best way in WC3 to store item, profflvl, profftype, material, gold, lumber and character code in 1. Why so low rating on the models? Give me a few suggestions, yes? Attatchments looks lame? Did you play the new version where I fixed all that stacking and wrong attatchment point things?

You have some rethinking to do mate, but atleast you are being honest, which I like. +rep for effort and perhaps I will see a more well-made review from you soon.

Thanks.

 

[-Bloody Hound-]

Thats all i can give you right now, because my stepfather doesnt let me play computer from monday-friday.. and when he is not home i can sneek and check facebook and THW or clanravh.palstani.com.


Also i will made a HUUUUGE real review cuz its not that hard because i know what to write ...

 

[Sverkerman]

Thats all i can give you right now, because my stepfather doesnt let me play computer from monday-friday.. and when he is not home i can sneek and check facebook and THW or clanravh.palstani.com.


Also i will made a HUUUUGE real review cuz its not that hard because i know what to write ...

hehe okay

btw, your english has really improved!

 

[Hagge5]

What?

Off topic:
I agree with "apocalypse" i think i spelled it right.
This map is rated how "sverkerman" wanted, so after a one big tought about this all i redone my rating.There are alot of maps that are FAAAR better then "Bow".
Bow is a good map, also i dont know who said but i its not fair to add him rep or to give him rating 5/5 just for his satisfaction.
Back on topic:
About the map:
Terrain is alot improved... i give it a rate : 6.8 / 10
Icons are choosen very well.. 9.1 / 10 icons for attributes and armor and attack arent matching ...
Few unit model's are good.. 2.1 / 10
It is good idea to go and just fight a boss in a square box.. 2.1 / 10
Voice acting is verry verry well "made" 10 / 10
The save/load code is a FAWKING CRAWP! 1.1 / 10 for effort
Items are shown on hero(attachment's) 6.8 / 10 Because it looks lame on a hero that does have a weapon ... The standard "villager" model will improve it IMO.
A few things that "sverkerman" forgot to redo like items are still clickable for no reason.. and all the rest small thing's i will not rate or even consider rating.

So like thats the main things i saw in this map..

And after all the real my rating is :
5.42 and that is 2.71 out of 5 so my rating 3 is kinda like bonus cuz i should give it a 2 ..
And dont look my other ratings on other maps..Cuz from now on i will rate "fair-ly"

P.S. Sorry for bad english..

I'm sorry but...
Are you dumb? Or are you just trolling? You're just taking random points and then rate them, it's like saying BoW sucks because it's not an FPS.

I agree that BoW is not perfect, but you're "ratings" are completely inaccurate. Ecspecially about the save system, it's relatively short and works correctly, and i made it personally. Please tell me EXACTLY whats wrong with it. Saying that I put in hours of effort for nothing is just...

"Few unit's models are good 2.1/10"... What? Seriously? You are basing 1/7 of your final score of of what you think of the models? And the hero models are ingame models and are therefore not crappy, rejected, imported models, they are made by blizzard themselves. (well, except 2, which still has been getting very good ratings in the models section)

"It is a good idea to fight bosses in a box... 2.1/10" Are you trying to be ironic? Several maps has done the same and been very succesful, it's the whole concept of the game. Even in WoW, boss fights are usually in a sealed of room.

"Icons are choosed very well 9.1/10" You can't seriously be basing 1/7 of the final score off imported icons? Rate the icons instead, not the f*king map. Anyone can do a "good choice of icons", it require no skill what so ever. If he had made cool icons himself, you could have mentioned that you liked them, but you still won't put that as 1/7 of the total score.

Some of the things I do not agree on. However, you made a really good review Burke besides that you do not know how it is to create a map. Like for an instance, if all had the villager model, fine would be great for attatchments! BUT, it would be way too unpersonal. For an instance, a warlock with just regular skin and no evil looking powers? A witch which doesn't make you get a chill to the core? Nah, Models are just fine as they are. Terrain improved? Agree. It is alot better. But since you gave me a 6.8 you need to tell me how can I improve the terrain? Same goes for icons. Which icons doesn't fit? And again, saving code is crap? ehh? Saving code is a creation of Hagge5, took him a lot of effort and as far as I know this is the absolutly best way in WC3 to store item, profflvl, profftype, material, gold, lumber and character code in 1. Why so low rating on the models? Give me a few suggestions, yes? Attatchments looks lame? Did you play the new version where I fixed all that stacking and wrong attatchment point things?

You have some rethinking to do mate, but atleast you are being honest, which I like. +rep for effort and perhaps I will see a more well-made review from you soon.

Thanks.

It's nice that you are trying to be nice to him, Sverker, seeing it as contructive critisism. But he has no valid point what so ever (except perhaps attachments, I'm not a fan of attachments either). Dont give him +rep, don't thank him.

Sorry if I broke any of hives rules and was abit too offensive, this is just what I think. I'm not in any way trying to manipulate map ratings, I just think this review was total cr*p.

 

[Sverkerman]

I know but Ap0 will Fu&%!&* kill me if I tell him to remove his rating.

 

[ap0calypse]

It's ap0calypse, the 0 (zero) belongs to my name, I dislike it when it's written with a regular o.
(And the first letter is lower-case, but you did that right).

I know but Ap0 will Fu&%!&* kill me if I tell him to remove his rating.

I agree that his review is bad. But let me show you a few other examples:

Excellent map 5/5

Gj indeed friend =)!

Really awesome map

Awsome map keep it up

Nice! Good luck. And bosses realy cool)

Be honest with me: those reviews are FAR worse than Burke's. At least he tried, the ones above didn't (and all gave the map a 5/5).

I either delete all ratings (except c_o_b's and naitsirk's ratings, as they've got some good feedback), or none at all.

Reasons you should get the ratings removed:
To play the game fair. Getting a 5/5 with as reason "excellent map" is rubbish, it doesn't tell you anything.
There's also a 1/5 between the ratings, the post got deleted (by enjoy), but the rating did not. This will also disappear then.
I honestly don't know when the rating will actually change (if at all), as I've removed ratings before, yet the overall rating remained the same (but then it was like 4.85/5 - 1 vote).

Reasons why not:
Because your rating will drop to 4.5/5 (IF it decreases. If it does, it still means "the balancing point of perfect").
But yeah, since you cared about a 0.029 decrease...

 

[Sverkerman]

Pffffffffff....

None in that case, ap0calypse.

 

[ap0calypse]

Pffffffffff....

None in that case, ap0calypse.

I edited my post. Think carefully.

 

[Sverkerman]

I edited my post. Think carefully.

Thanks for caring ap0 but really I don't want my rating decreased that much.

do not remove the ratings, let them be and I'll live with "noob" comments.

Thx.

 

[-Bloody Hound-]

btw, your english has really improved!

Well thank you mate i can write properly when i want to say something serious.

And also thank's "Hagge5" and StarZerg for hating comment even tho i said that this is the main things that i saw in this map.
And even tho i said i will make a "HUUUUGE" real review -.- its just i dont have time...
P.S. sverkerman please read people's post carefully, because if i read correctly "ap0calypse" said something about his "user name", and how he doesnt like "Ap0"

Edit 1:
Is the new version comming out soon?
Can't wait..

edit 2:
NEW VER PLZ ? ('-_-')!

 

[.VTZ.]

5/5
i love it, congratz Sverkerman

=)

 

[Sverkerman]

5/5
i love it, congratz Sverkerman

=)

OMG Thank you!

Also expect the new ver in 2 days. got 1 more boss to work on.