Warcraft 3 Re-Reforged: Exodus of the Horde

[InsaneMonster]

Moved back to pending to be re-evaluated.
Will take another look at it when I have the time.

That was unexpected. Let me know what you think, it is important to me (that applies to everyone, not only the moderator). The remaining two maps expect to be changed as much as the third one (overall I mean).

 

[Shar Dundred]

I said it would be taken another look at when the third chapter was added. I am a man of my word.
If you wish to edit the first two maps before I take another look, however, let me know.

 

[InsaneMonster]

I said it would be taken another look at when the third chapter was added. I am a man of my word.
If you wish to edit the first two maps before I take another look, however, let me know.

I always update the already released maps when I release one new. However, I'm quite happy how they turned out. Not all maps should have changed gameplay. To summarize:
1) Gameplay unchanged, reworked terrain (with same design), cinematics (with many added), increased difficulty, added some encounters, refined tutorial, improved secret
2) Base construction gameplay unchanged, improved tutorial, added more creeps. Assault gameplay completely changed (the enemy has an AI now). Terrain updated in the first part (like first map), completely redone in the second one. Of course cinematic fully redone.
2 Interlude) It's new!
3) Map done from scratch, new quest design, cinematics, restored content, tileset, etc...

 

[MasterBlaster]

Added scene showing the humans attacking the trolls

Awwww <3

By the way, in the interlude... the Shaman walks straight through a tree trunk, which viewed from a cinematic angle really triggers my OCD

 

[Ardenaso]

tried chapter 3 and, there's no Watch Towers? Also if you ESC during the fountain quest turn in the fountain won't get restored and it will take like 5 mins before Thrall gets free Healing Wards; very good chapter otherwise

 

[InsaneMonster]

Awwww <3

By the way, in the interlude... the Shaman walks straight through a tree trunk, which viewed from a cinematic angle really triggers my OCD

I'll solve that, but I will write in the changelog that's just to appease your OCD

tried chapter 3 and, there's no Watch Towers? Also if you ESC during the fountain quest turn in the fountain won't get restored and it will take like 5 mins before Thrall gets free Healing Wards; very good chapter otherwise

Thank you for reporting the bugs, I'll fix them in the next version. About the watch towers, they are supposed to be introduced in mission 5, alongside the holdout mission. As you can see, I've changed quite a lot the units you can use (specifically, I'm adding 1 unit per mission).

 

[papastreck]

Awesome campaign, land and cinematics are really perfecr, I also enjoyed new models, will wait for new missions!

 

[InsaneMonster]

Awesome campaign, land and cinematics are really perfecr, I also enjoyed new models, will wait for new missions!

Thank you! Two new mission are on the works, but they will require some time.

In a couple of hours I'll update the third map with an hotfix. Very minor changes, but required. You can find the changelog as follows:

Updated Mission 03 (Riders on the Storm) [v1.1]:
- Fixed a tree trunk on the way of a shaman to appease MasterBlaster OCD
- Fixed some bugs with the trigger queue in the third cinematic (Healed Fountain), where queue was not cleared and the fountain itself was not healed if the cinematics was skipped

 

[MasterBlaster]

- Fixed a tree trunk on the way of a shaman to appease MasterBlaster OCD

My sanity has been restored, thank you!

 

[Goffterdom]

Dude it's so inspiring!

This is single handedly make me wanna reinstall to replay a lil bit of that campaign... on your terms these times!

EDIT: It's great that you added the videos, I would have never had installed War3 to check it out. But it made me possibly want to...

 

[InsaneMonster]

Dude it's so inspiring!

This is single handedly make me wanna reinstall to replay a lil bit of that campaign... on your terms these times!

EDIT: It's great that you added the videos, I would have never had installed War3 to check it out. But it made me possibly want to...

You reviewed me without playing it? It's... odd!. I really hope you play them for good and tell me what you think!

 

[InsaneMonster]

For those interested, a full playthrough video of the third mission, so you can check the gameplay differences by yourself.

A lot of things I didn't explore in this video, you are welcome to try it ouy and tell me what you think of the gameplay too.

 

[Goffterdom]

You reviewed me without playing it? It's... odd!

It's not odd, can't I just encourage a fellow developer if there's something in his work which just... "ding" with my feelings?
Not to mention the passion and the hardwork you seem to be putting in there.
I can't do anything else than use the different vectors I have to encourage that.

 

[deepstrasz]

It's not odd

It's not. Lots of people do it especially with low ratings.
However, it's not fair.

 

[Shar Dundred]

Maps approved!

 

[Goffterdom]

It's not. Lots of people do it especially with low ratings.
However, it's not fair.

If there were a thousands people rating and commenting every day, I wouldn't feel the need to bump up the morale of fellow devs.

Sorry if I'm stepping out of the lines \o/

EDIT: Now if that makes you more comfortable, I'm writing comments, voting and giving rep to many people.

 

[InsaneMonster]

Maps approved!

Great! Thanks! This is amazing news!

If there were a thousands people rating and commenting every day, I wouldn't feel the need to bump up the morale of fellow devs.

Sorry if I'm stepping out of the lines \o/

EDIT: Now if that makes you more comfortable, I'm writing comments, voting and giving rep to many people.

Hey I didn't want to start any kind of argument. Anyway Goffterdom, I'm looking forward to know what you think of the maps once you have played them!

 

[Goffterdom]

Yeah me neither, sorry if it looked that way.

I'm just filled with emotions whenever I see people hard working on Reforged projects, I can't help myself but to pop in and try to bring some love, in any way I can.

I have a question though, since the custom campaign feature is gone, do we launch your maps one after the others?

If yes, how did you do with character progression? Do you just consider that the player "collected" everything he could on previous mission and spawn him with it in the next one?

EDIT: Another question if I may, when (and if) the custom campaign feature comes back, will you instantly port your work to it? (I guess so). How hard do you think it'll be to convert it to a functional campaign?

 

[InsaneMonster]

Yeah me neither, sorry if it looked that way.

I'm just filled with emotions whenever I see people hard working on Reforged projects, I can't help myself but to pop in and try to bring some love, in any way I can.

I have a question though, since the custom campaign feature is gone, do we launch your maps one after the others?

If yes, how did you do with character progression? Do you just consider that the player "collected" everything he could on previous mission and spawn him with it in the next one?

EDIT: Another question if I may, when (and if) the custom campaign feature comes back, will you instantly port your work to it? (I guess so). How hard do you think it'll be to convert it to a functional campaign?

Well well, for now I disabled character progression but I will enable it as soon as custom campaigns come back. The best way to start the maps is through the editor (test map). This way, you can select the difficulty. Otherwise it will always default to normal.

Yes, as soon as custom campaigns are back this will be ported over immediately. There are a few things I want to port from mission to mission:
1) Lore tips and hints where applicable (if you click in one mission, it's not repeated in another)
2) Character progression (as always)
3) The base, gold remaining (both within a certain boundary) and survived trolls villages in the 3rd mission are ported to the 5th (the map layout is shared already, you can see the attacking murloc villages in the 3rd even if, in the 3rd, they do nothing), plus some other little comments and dialogues (for example about the fountain if it was not healed, there is cut content for that)
4) The remaining troops at the end of 4th mission are ported to the 5th as initial troops (plus some default ones)

 

[Malistroth]

You can replace vanilla Exodus campaign and keep the hero prorgess between missions using this guide:

Reforged - Guide: Changing campaigns

 

[InsaneMonster]

You can replace vanilla Exodus campaign and keep the hero prorgess between missions using this guide:

Reforged - Guide: Changing campaigns

This looks interesting. It's also possible to increase the number of maps?

 

[Malistroth]

It's also possible to increase the number of maps?

As far as I know - no.

 

[InsaneMonster]

As far as I know - no.

That's sad. I will anyway look into your guide. Point is, I have an additional interlude I need to show. But your research is a good one and very welcome indeed. Thank you for sharing (and for using my Sen'Jin model in your tutorial )

 

[Malistroth]

I have an additional interlude I need to show

You can integrate it into the third mission or remove it.

for using my Sen'Jin model in your tutorial

Thank you for creating it!

 

[Goffterdom]

I played the first map and what really stroke me was the quality of the terrain

One thing bothers me though (like it does with official campaigns): the hero progression is not pleasing in terms of XP.

You grind forever little monsters for no benefits and you are deliberately locked to certain levels.

It would be nice to see a campaign where farming your hero actually feels rewarding in terms of XP and level gains (of course the difficulty of the campaign should adjust to that).

In any case, it felt better than the Reforged prologue so far

 

[InsaneMonster]

I played the first map and what really stroke me was the quality of the terrain

One thing bothers me though (like it does with official campaigns): the hero progression is not pleasing in terms of XP.

You grind forever little monsters for no benefits and you are deliberately locked to certain levels.

It would be nice to see a campaign where farming your hero actually feels rewarding in terms of XP and level gains (of course the difficulty of the campaign should adjust to that).

In any case, it felt better than the Reforged prologue so far

The first map is the most similar one. Go on playing.

Btw, I don't want to change warcraft 3, just to modernize it. If you feel in following maps to have to grind too many creeps, tell me. The first map is what it is because it's built around the tutorial. I could make it so you level slower when you skip the tutorial tough.

 

[rahul12]

Will it work in patch 1.31 or reforged only ?

 

[InsaneMonster]

Will it work in patch 1.31 or reforged only ?

This is reforged only.
Cinematics, cameras, doddoads and custom models are all for Reforged and built with Reforged in mind.

 

[InsaneMonster]

Updated cinematics showcase with latest version!

 

[kingfirex2]

HI,

i loved so much your campaign, that is what we need in warcraft 3 reforged

One ting man i played "Chronicles of the Second War: Tides of Darkness Demo" before i play your campaign the most impressive thing was mission progress (items, abilities ...) and when i played your campaign i was said when i played the second mission no mission prgress why?? plz make mission progress your map dessign is beautiful make the good work man!!!

 

[InsaneMonster]

HI,

i loved so much your campaign, that is what we need in warcraft 3 reforged

One ting man i played "Chronicles of the Second War: Tides of Darkness Demo" before i play your campaign the most impressive thing was mission progress (items, abilities ...) and when i played your campaign i was said when i played the second mission no mission prgress why?? plz make mission progress your map dessign is beautiful make the good work man!!!

Hey there, I am waiting to complete the campaign (btw, the next update) so to properly balance everything. As of now, I've balanced the missions as-is, then I need to properly balance progression. It's not easy, because progression will be more extensive and complex than just items and abilities, so I need to have all laid out to make it work properly without having to redo it multiple times (I am one guy, and I would like to avoid doing the same work multiple times).

 

[InsaneMonster]

Updated some showcase videos with latest version PLUS some teaser of what is to come in the next update (campaign full release)

Spoiler: Teaser

PS: I'll probably stop showcase videos when it releases for quite a while, both because we have quite a lot of mission and at the same time I want people to play it instead of just watching me playing it. Probably, I'll make some cinematics showcase sooner than playthroughs. You can expect me to update all the showcases for when the campaign is full released.

 

[Ardenaso]

Spoiler

I like how you made the Darkspear Dungeon look more Highborne and Sunken Ruins-ish while keeping the fiery underworld theme

I really do feel Zar'jira needs her own model; I hope someone makes one

 

[InsaneMonster]

Spoiler

I like how you made the Darkspear Dungeon look more Highborne and Sunken Ruins-ish while keeping the fiery underworld theme

I really do feel Zar'jira needs her own model; I hope someone makes one

Well, the Naga Sea Witch model is only used for her, so there should be no repetition. Before release, I'll port many Vashi's animations to her to improve the cinematics.

 

[Fugrim]

My friend I want to be one the people that just wants to say THANK YOU!!!
You gave me what I was hoping for when I pre-purchased this WC reforged and what I waited for until it came out
I can't want to play all your maps (y)

 

[Goffterdom]

I just played the latest available chapter and I must say I really enjoyed it.

It was a bit too easy (but is there a difficulty option?).

The terraining is amazing overall, a few rocks are too big and ground brushes could feel a little bit more natural, but I can only tell because the rest is awesome

I was pretty amazed at Kul Tiras unit model details as well (noticeably the Knight, which "seems" to be the same but has actually quite a few distinctive details <3).

Looking forward the rest, keep up the good work!

EDIT: And I didn't mention the cinematic but they are well staged as well. My only regret is that my GPU starts burning because of Reforged (and I literally hear the crisp sounds), and by no mean is it an "old" GPU, just not a recent one.

 

[InsaneMonster]

My friend I want to be one the people that just wants to say THANK YOU!!!
You gave me what I was hoping for when I pre-purchased this WC reforged and what I waited for until it came out
I can't want to play all your maps (y)

Thanks! Stay tuned for final release of Prologue Soon™.

I just played the latest available chapter and I must say I really enjoyed it.

It was a bit too easy (but is there a difficulty option?).

The terraining is amazing overall, a few rocks are too big and ground brushes could feel a little bit more natural, but I can only tell because the rest is awesome

I was pretty amazed at Kul Tiras unit model details as well (noticeably the Knight, which "seems" to be the same but has actually quite a few distinctive details <3).

Looking forward the rest, keep up the good work!

EDIT: And I didn't mention the cinematic but they are well staged as well. My only regret is that my GPU starts burning because of Reforged (and I literally hear the crisp sounds), and by no mean is it an "old" GPU, just not a recent one.

First of all thank you and I'm happy you managed to play it at last!

So, terrain brushes are what they are. If you tell me where you feel them innatural I can take a look, but there is only so much I can do with the way editor handles terrain. Some rocks are big yes, the problem is that some Sunken Ruins tileset rocks are also low res with respect to the others, so they are easier to notice when upscaled.

About difficulty, you played on normal if you played from the custom game section of the game. Normal is balanced and overall enjoyable but if you are a veteran and play like me, or just to make an example you play like Jayborino, you really need to play on hard to get some challenge. In other words, easy is for noobs, hard for veterans and normal for everyone else. By default in the custom game section you can only play on normal, but you could give the maps a try (especially the third one) on hard by using the editor. You need to open the map in the World Editor (it's not protected so you can do it easily) and then go to preferences -> test -> hard difficulty and then test the map.

 

[Goffterdom]

Thanks for the details. I definitely prefer harder difficulty even if I'm by no mean a pro RTS player (I got some solid foundations nonetheless).

I might give it another try once the other chapters release

 

[Rafcio123]

Do you plan re-reforged human, undead, orc night elfes campaign as well?

 

[istvan921]

I have to say you did a pretty good job with it far much better what Blizzard made

 

[InsaneMonster]

Do you plan re-reforged human, undead, orc night elfes campaign as well?

Yes, depending on support received as soon as I release this one.

I have to say you did a pretty good job with it far much better what Blizzard made

Wait to see the final complete version of the prologue out Soon(TM)!

 

[InsaneMonster]

Final showcase update, Maelstrom:

From now on, the next update will come with final release. Expect something... big.

 

[Kam]

Great work on this.

 

[InsaneMonster]

Great work on this.

Thank you! I hope to deliver a late christmas gift to the whole community... and I hope the next version will be played by you Blues too. I think I nailed what your intentions originally were with Reforged, both from a game design and a cinematic standpoint

 

[Kam]

You're doing quite well!

Note that some maps still have the intended Reforged cameras in them. You may have noticed that though.

 

[InsaneMonster]

The prologue is finally released! For me, it is completed. Let me know what you think!

 

[Goffterdom]

Congratulation for the release!

I think I will replay it and discover the other chapters / reworked things you've done

 

[AlexMSimeonov]

I've played through the whole Prologue in one sitting and i must say.... My god, you outdid yourself, mate! This is amazing! Every little detail. And that Boss battle in Chapter 4, it was intense and fun!

WARCRAFT III: RE-REFORGED is in good hands! I can't wait to see the next campaign, which is a favorite of mine - The Scourge of Lordaeron.

 

[Serena H.]

Honestly it's the best mod ever, can't wait for the next campaigns, specially the night elf ones <3

It's funny that a single fan in less than a year can make a better truly reforged campaign than the original company who made this game.

 

[Lordnefarian]

Who will win? Small indie studio or one fan? Glad that fans are trying to revive the dead courpse of Reforged.