Diablo III Warcraft Beta v1.19b

[redmarine]

lol, yea! I saw :O Theres stuff all over the internet about it xD I also love the new "Monthly Top Maps" the hive has made

As for Bashiok, he literally just asked me to contact him via Email I have'nt a clue what its about but I'll let you guys know if anything major comes up =]

Thanks again for all the help on the inventory system Ive been reading all the posts and it appears that LTGH and yourself have made some rather impressive breakthroughs! Keep up the good work!

Alright mate.

Here is a little screenshot of the lightning system I thought could prove useful. By allowing the entire dungeon to be dark and the only light-sources to come from fire and the hero themselves it could create a nice epic feeling to it.
You know the feeling that you're not alone and some kind of creature could be hiding in every corner?

 

[Waterwalk]

Alright mate.

Here is a little screenshot of the lightning system I thought could prove useful. By allowing the entire dungeon to be dark and the only light-sources to come from fire and the hero themselves it could create a nice epic feeling to it.
You know the feeling that you're not alone and some kind of creature could be hiding in every corner?

Sadly, this is a feature which isn't implemented in D3.

Awesome map anyway.

 

[redmarine]

Sadly, this is a feature which isn't implemented in D3.

Awesome map anyway.

Heh, you're right. Thanks for the clarification.

Anyway... CloudWolf, Instead of using those fell demons why not use this one instead?
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models.php?id=myg0ph

I think it fits the atmosphere better.

 

[CloudWolf]

Alright mate.

Here is a little screenshot of the lightning system I thought could prove useful. By allowing the entire dungeon to be dark and the only light-sources to come from fire and the hero themselves it could create a nice epic feeling to it.
You know the feeling that you're not alone and some kind of creature could be hiding in every corner?

aaah, yes, I saw that the other diablo III map at wc3c.net uses the same thing =]

I guess its worth a shot We can always have a quick play around with the map to see if it fits

If not in this map, we could always add it to one of the others when I get round to starting them

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Going back to Bashiok's mail, I'm rather hoping its nothing bad (such as copyright issues) :S I guess being contacted by an official Blizzard Representative will either turn out to be very good, or very bad for the project.

Time will tell I guess =]


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EDIT:

Heh, you're right. Thanks for the clarification.

Anyway... CloudWolf, Instead of using those fell demons why not use this one instead?
http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/models.php?id=myg0ph

I think it fits the atmosphere better.

Ill admit its a nice model, although, it has far too much armour for my liking :S The beserker appears to have blue(ish) skin in the trailers, and the model just lacks the right colours :/ We're also quite tight for memory space in the map, however, saying that, we might have enough room for it depending on how much space the inventory system takes up =]

Definately a good idea though! If we have enough space, and get permission to edit the skin it would be a rather nice addition ^^

 

[redmarine]

aaah, yes, I saw that the other diablo III map at wc3c.net uses the same thing =]

I guess its worth a shot We can always have a quick play around with the map to see if it fits

If not in this map, we could always add it to one of the others when I get round to starting them

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Going back to Bashiok's mail, I'm rather hoping its nothing bad (such as copyright issues) :S I guess being contacted by an official Blizzard Representative will either turn out to be very good, or very bad for the project.

Time will tell I guess =]

Awesome! I'll try to learn how to do the lightning source stuff.

Well, Bashiok seemed quite happy when he got the news. It's better to respond and take the consequences than not.

 

[Palaslayer]

ok, let em tell you a few things and sum up those i said earlier in the thread.

i saw this maps popularity grow from the date it was first released and i like that blizzard seems to support what you are doing.

a few things on gameplay:
-there is a lightning system in d2 and there might be one in d3 so...
-add a custom spell system, real diablo is much faster (lower cd, lower manacost, lower dmg, creeps hp will increase a lot later)
-add an exp and difficulty system to make it more like diablo
-add some more real and triggered diablo spells like in the trailer, not those lame ones from bject editor
-add desintegrate to the wizzard, vexorian made a spell like that a while ago
-add jump and so on to the barb, also some better whirlwind would be nice
-make the gameplay more interesting like adding quests and not just creep bashing
-to the witchdoc i want this disease cloud, should be able to be triggered
-i can destroy the dalaran tower at the beginning of the entire dungeon when standing on the bridge, is funny but dunno if supposed to
-try to inform yourself i a forum to add more d2 features
-hm, things to add eh

else some info on bashiok:

as far as i know he is the d3 community manager and announces news, changes and so on.

else i can say: keep up the good work!

 

[CloudWolf]

ok, let em tell you a few things and sum up those i said earlier in the thread.

i saw this maps popularity grow from the date it was first released and i like that blizzard seems to support what you are doing.

a few things on gameplay:
-there is a lightning system in d2 and there might be one in d3 so...
-add a custom spell system, real diablo is much faster (lower cd, lower manacost, lower dmg, creeps hp will increase a lot later)
-add an exp and difficulty system to make it more like diablo
-add some more real and triggered diablo spells like in the trailer, not those lame ones from bject editor
-add desintegrate to the wizzard, vexorian made a spell like that a while ago
-add jump and so on to the barb, also some better whirlwind would be nice
-make the gameplay more interesting like adding quests and not just creep bashing
-to the witchdoc i want this disease cloud, should be able to be triggered
-i can destroy the dalaran tower at the beginning of the entire dungeon when standing on the bridge, is funny but dunno if supposed to
-try to inform yourself i a forum to add more d2 features
-hm, things to add eh

else some info on bashiok:

as far as i know he is the d3 community manager and announces news, changes and so on.

else i can say: keep up the good work!

The map is still very much in production so the map you see is far from complete

A new set of triggered spells is currently being developed by external sources (basically not by me), so hopefully we will see some of them being implemented into the map as time draws on.

Jump is also another major aspect of the game which will be sorted out at some point. The problem I have is that the barbarian can jump out of the playable area (Eg, into the abyss) and this needs to be sorted before the spell can be implemented. Ive seen plenty of jumps in the spells section so hopefully it won't take too much time to add Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo managed to fix this bug, so its definately possible. I just need to find out how

Dissintegrate is also a must for the map. It will be added at some point for definate

Thanks for your support!

 

[PurplePoot]

Yupp, yupp. The coding is like you said.
We are reworking on the damn spells but i wonder why they never appears in the damn map, the should be done by now. Was like over one moth since they started to work on them :S
What makes the gameplay "Blah"? If you tell us what makes so maybe we can make it even more enjoyable and fun to play. ^^

The units were rather generic, the bosses were repetitive and sort of just stood there. The invulnerability was also rather annoying.

 

[redmarine]

CloudWolf, link Glowing Light
Glowing Light - The Hive Workshop - A Warcraft III Modding Site

And I've implemented it into a map. If it was somewhat bigger it would be kinda useful.

 

[Palaslayer]

ok, first, i also can do a jump, its not that hard, wih a collision check means no jumping in the abyss. and earlier on the page you said that after the inv sys the map is nearly finished

and better do a light sys than using that model ^^

 

[CloudWolf]

ok, first, i also can do a jump, its not that hard, wih a collision check means no jumping in the abyss. and earlier on the page you said that after the inv sys the map is nearly finished

and better do a light sys than using that model ^^

Well, theres already plenty of jump systems out there, so theres no need to make yet another one Thanks for the suggestions though!

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I also just saw a bug with the UI xD Theres a black box where the alpha is wrong below "Low Upkeep" =[

 

[CloudMax]

I also just saw a bug with the UI xD Theres a black box where the alpha is wrong below "Low Upkeep" =[

You notice that but you doesnt notice that the entire lower interface is bugged?
If you first select a unit with inventory, and then select one without, you will se that the interface moves. (Correct me if im wrong).

All i need to do is to make a huge amount of items to the system, and Redmarine is editing the system so it will be easier for you to add items yourself later CW, other then that its pretty much done .

As for Bashiok, he literally just asked me to contact him via Email I have'nt a clue what its about but I'll let you guys know if anything major comes up =]

I knew it! I said befor that he was going to ask CW to contact him through mail.

 

[Palaslayer]

hm, is the dalaran tower at the beginning upposed to be killable now?

*try to find a jump sys with pathing check

 

[T-s-G]

Does this map have a save/load system? =D

 

[CloudMax]

hm, is the dalaran tower at the beginning upposed to be killable now?

I started to yell at CW to fix that even since version 1.04, he still havent responded on that question

Does this map have a save/load system? =D

What about downloading and test the map?
Or read page 96:

The plan is to create several more maps like this one with a save/load system so players can transfer their characters between them.

And the answer is no.

 

[Palaslayer]

but it is funny ^^

 

[CloudMax]

but it is funny ^^

And it is anoying. sometimes one of them appear on the screen and when i want to move, my hero starts to move towards the tower and not where i was suppost to go >.<

 

[saphiree]

Ohh WB Cloud I guess there cant go long before the new inventory system is up now

 

[Spitfire112]

Omg, i played this yesterday, and omfg i loved it! It really feels like Diablo. And looks like Diablo 3.

 

[KYTON]

For the jump system ...you don't need a jump system with pathing check...you can do the pathing check yourself... just create an item at the point the unit needs to jump to and if the position of the item is not the target point, the jump gets cancelled.

 

[CloudMax]

For the jump system ...you don't need a jump system with pathing check...you can do the pathing check yourself... just create an item at the point the unit needs to jump to and if the position of the item is not the target point, the jump gets cancelled.

Doesnt that mean that you still can jump stright down to the abyss since that is a 100% normal area that is just lowered? :O

 

[Super-Sheep]

No, if you use pahing blockers or that black boundary.

 

[CloudMax]

No, if you use pahing blockers or that black boundary.

What do you mean? :O Anyway, we do use Pathings blocks so that players cant walk down to the abyss, but only on the edges.

 

[Super-Sheep]

Cause items cant be created on blockers or boundary.

 

[CloudMax]

Cause items cant be created on blockers or boundary.

So what you guys is trying to say that when you click to jump at a specefic area, it creates a unit at that point, but if that point has a pathing block or a black field it cant appear on that point and that way you wont jump becouse the units position is not the same as the targeted point?
I think i got it right, im not sure.

 

[Super-Sheep]

Item.

ITEM. Not unit.

 

[CloudMax]

kk... item... whats the difference? >__>

 

[Oziris]

Make when the Barbarian jumps and lands on unit, units that stay alive are knocked back or every unit. That would be pretty cool!

 

[CloudMax]

Make when the Barbarian jumps and lands on unit, units that stay alive are knocked back or every unit. That would be pretty cool!

That is a part of the ability you know, and it wouldent be hard at all to do, we only have to activate the pushback trigger :-]

 

[redmarine]

The pickup system (ironically) now automatically drops items in case the inventory system is full.
Edit: Optimized triggers for efficiency and reduce confusion. The system used to require that you did math but now it's highly unnecessary.
Edit2: Potions are now also fully supported by the pick up system!

• For each (Integer A) from 20 to 35, do (Actions)
  • Loop - Actions
    • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
      • If - Conditions
        • And - All (Conditions) are true
          • Conditions
            • Inventory_Item_Player1[(Integer A)] Equal to No destructible
            • Inventory_Found_Slot Equal to False
      • Then - Actions
        • Set Inventory_FirstEmpty_Player1 = (Integer A)
        • Set Inventory_Found_Slot = True
        • Set Inventory_Item_Player1[Inventory_FirstEmpty_Player1] = (Last created destructible)
        • Set Inventory_Item_ID_Player1[Inventory_FirstEmpty_Player1] = (Item level of (Item being manipulated))
        • Set Inventory_Empty_Player1[Inventory_FirstEmpty_Player1] = False
      • Else - Actions
        • If (All Conditions are True) then do (Then Actions) else do (Else Actions)
          • If - Conditions
            • (Integer A) Equal to 35
            • Inventory_Found_Slot Equal to False
          • Then - Actions
            • Set rect = (Position of (Hero manipulating item))
            • Item - Create (Item-type of (Item being manipulated)) at rect
            • Custom script: call RemoveLocation(udg_rect)
          • Else - Actions

 

[manstie]

Hey, GREAT map. I did finish it but there were some bugs I had encountered along the way. Besides that, the scenery is too good to be true.

Here are the bugs:
-When a player died near the hills, some units were in the place of which he died at, then when he revived he revived onto the hills, past your pathing blockers.
-Sometimes, when a person revives, the camera gets unlocked from the position of your unit.

 

[expresso]

Not to be rude but he will soon be removed from the map.
We are getting out of space and he is just a little bonus boss that CW wanted to add
If you could lower the size on him we might be able to keep him a little longer ^_^

That's fine, it's cool while he's in it.
I am tempted to work on him some more what with the D3 design sheets available now. I doubt what I make would use LESS resources though hah.

 

[Super-Sheep]

How about to fix leaks...

 

[CloudMax]

How about to fix leaks...

Wow, your smart. We never tought of that... uhmm..
CW was working on that, but then he started to work on a new revive system and then he was gone on a skiing holiday and then idk what he is doing.
He should be working on that but i have no idea.

 

[CloudWolf]

Well, right now, im not working on anything until I hear back from Bashiok :/ I want to confirm theres nothing wrong with what we're doing before I update the map again

I have managed to fix a few previous leaks though The skeleton kings SFX's dont leak any more

 

[CloudMax]

Well, right now, im not working on anything until I hear back from Bashiok :/ I want to confirm theres nothing wrong with what we're doing before I update the map again

I have managed to fix a few previous leaks though The skeleton kings SFX's dont leak any more

There shouldent be anything wrong cus we havent really stole anything from the game (expect loading screen & Preview Picture). Its just based on D3. and we have created it in Wc3, and its a game created by Blizzard.

But if you dont want to update until you get a clear answer, dont.
BTW, when he said that he wanted to contact you, he sounded happy. I think that he just like your map

 

[redmarine]

I pretty much fucked up the potion system. I'll copy old triggers from an older map.

Regarding the leaks, I've been wondering why it leaked so much but I'm pretty decent at removing any kind of leaks which are GUI related so... I could remove them if you like.

 

[CloudMax]

Redmarine, does that mean that my inventory system was leak free? xD
I does not know what leaks is anyway.....

 

[Waterwalk]

Well, right now, im not working on anything until I hear back from Bashiok :/ I want to confirm theres nothing wrong with what we're doing before I update the map again

I have managed to fix a few previous leaks though The skeleton kings SFX's dont leak any more

never stop your work, too much time will get lost
....when there would be a problem you can easily remove it.

 

[redmarine]

Redmarine, does that mean that my inventory system was leak free? xD
I does not know what leaks is anyway.....

I'm going to remove leaks whenever I encounter any.

 

[CloudMax]

I'm going to remove leaks whenever I encounter any.

So you havent found any yet? =D=D=D

 

[redmarine]

So you havent found any yet? =D=D=D

Well, all your icon destructible creation action triggers leak. I'll make sure to remove the leaks.

 

[Balrog]

this map is really good but spell's are not good "Please" create gooder spells

 

[Palaslayer]

sry, but the map leaks or leaked before? ... *sigh* the first thing to learn when scripting is clearing leaks.

 

[Super-Sheep]

Just hosted it on Bnet with 5 players, but one left during the game so we were actually just 4. Barb, Barb, Doc and Doc. Almost beat down Tyrael, but it had ~500 hp left and we died.

And I noticed that "Unholy Aura" buff from Whirlwind bugged and I had the buff for the entire game, but it didnt increase my hit point regeneration rate. Also it would be good idea to write on the beginning or on the loadingscreen that "Please visit at http://www.hiveworkshop.com/maps and give feedback" or something like that. So you could actually grow up some kind of community.

And very beginning there was a item that had flame/fire (and it casted Chain Lightning) in its name and it was Mage/Doctor item, but I could pick it up as Barbarian. Also it's tooltip were screwed up with incorrect color codes.. It was just some |cfff#0000 with white.

EDIT
And for Palasplayer. Open the map in World Editor and see...

 

[saphiree]

Hmm a leak is when the whole game (or just the map) goes down because of theres something wrong in the triggers right? If it is, i think that someone would have seen it by now. Else use leakcheck you should be able to as you are making it all in GUI

BTW aint it kinda weird to loose to last boos when 4 players? ive defeated him with one other many times :O

 

[Super-Sheep]

Well my team was just full of 10 year old kids and the difficulty kinda bugs when you start the game with 5 players and then some players leave.

 

[Palaslayer]

no

a memory leak is when you forget to clear a variable, location, unit whatever after using it... which will result in pain in the ass lagg when reaching late game.

 

[redmarine]

no

a memory leak is when you forget to clear a variable, location, unit whatever after using it... which will result in pain in the ass lagg when reaching late game.

Well, I haven't really designed all the triggers but I do remove all leaks which I encounter inside the inventory system. They're all very easy to remove.

 

[saphiree]

i have one in my own map. But i dont rly know how to prevet it. I tried making the unit which caused the leak to a variable, but it dint work. I havent rly gone deeper in it, but i think i can fix it