DIIIW Inventory

[Anachron]

Hehe, two clicks isn't that much for a equipping at all, is it?

 

[CBX Entertainment]

un/equip via double(left)click?

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maybe you can do it somehow different

as i understood its atm: select item -> select drop item button
maybe you could make it: select drop item button (and activate mode) -> click on all items you want to drop

just an idea and it might turn out to work pretty bad, because you will probably drop some items you did not want to drop

same is possible with selling items

 

[Anachron]

un/equip via double(left)click?

Hell, why not? Would be 2 function calls

as i understood its atm: select item -> select drop item button

Exactly.

maybe you could make it: select drop item button (and activate mode) -> click on all items you want to drop

Again, a nice idea! But then you could missclick xD

just an idea and it might turn out to work pretty bad, because you will probably drop some items you did not want to drop

Check above lol.

same is possible with selling items

Selling items.. Hm, didn't thought about that. I guess I will a new window where you can see your slot items and the items which can be bought.

 

[CBX Entertainment]

Selling items.. Hm, didn't thought about that. I guess I will a new window where you can see your slot items and the items which can be bought.

aka shop

 

[Anachron]

Exactly. Was confused how it should exactly look like? Maybe you can help with a speeddraw?

 

[redmarine]

Well, equipping and unequipped should only require one click. Doesn't make sense that it should require double clicking. Is it some sort of confirmation? It has to be simple.

 

[Anachron]

No, double clicking meaning one click on item, one click on the drop slot.

 

[redmarine]

No, double clicking meaning one click on item, one click on the drop slot.

Oh right. Doesn't doubleclicking usually mean double clicking on the same location?

 

[Anachron]

Well, I was a bit confusing I know. Sorry.

 

[CloudMax]

I thought you mean that if you double click on for example a weapon in your bag, it will swap slot with the already equiped item. So insted of clicking on weapon, and then weapon slot, you just double click the item you want to equip (or un-equip).

I would love such a feature.

 

[CBX Entertainment]

I thought you mean that if you double click on for example a weapon in your bag, it will swap slot with the already equiped item. So insted of clicking on weapon, and then weapon slot, you just double click the item you want to equip (or un-equip).

I would love such a feature.

i kinda ment that too!

that other thing would just slow you down... and it's not really hard to make a real doubleclick function (just something like a check, if the clicked location is the same 2 times?)

 

[Anachron]

I can do that easily. If you want I am gonna add it?

Btw, the item slot module is nearly finished!
Video: here

 

[CBX Entertainment]

kinda nice, if the slots would have different icons
just saying... for viewers it's hard to tell in which slot you put the stuff

but yeye, i know... the ui can be changed and blah, so dont tell me

anyway
i guess it would be a very diablo-ish style if you make items unidentified
that means: you dont know the effect (and can not equip it) until you have identified it
you could also add a questionmark doodad (you know these, dont you) above the item doodad, to show the player instantly which item is not yet identified

and i also thought about showing that an item can not be equiped by your hero (cause of requirements, etc), by just adding a red doodad (with like 75% alpha channel) on top of it. just like the unidentified items

same with the two handed weapons. i saw in your video, that it looks like a one handed thing, but you could in fact make the offhand colored red or changed in another way (like disabled btn doodad)

oh and one last thing:
you should add the potions in the same order as you have them in your fsi
in your video you put a potion in the second slot of.. whatever it is, but in the heroes inventory it appers in the first slot
if it's the same slot, it would be less confusing... maybe..

 

[Anachron]

and i also thought about showing that an item can not be equiped by your hero (cause of requirements, etc), by just adding a red doodad (with like 75% alpha channel) on top of it. just like the unidentified items

Can easily be added.

same with the two handed weapons. i saw in your video, that it looks like a one handed thing, but you could in fact make the offhand colored red or changed in another way (like disabled btn doodad)

Hmm that would be more complicated. I'll think about that.

you should add the potions in the same order as you have them in your fsi
in your video you put a potion in the second slot of.. whatever it is, but in the heroes inventory it appers in the first slot
if it's the same slot, it would be less confusing... maybe.

Yeah, but for that I have to add dummy items and remove them to fix this annoying thing.

 

[Thyrael]

To show into what slot you can drag an item I choses for my inventory to highlight the allowed slots by a flashing marker instead of coloring hte forbiddon slots.

And for that problem with the incorrect slot in the heros inventory I used fakeitems too. Means removing every item carried by the hero and adding fakeitems for empty slots.

 

[Anachron]

So I think there is no other way. Really stupid. Thanks though.
Hmm about the flashing: Good idea.

 

[Thyrael]

In my inventory you can drag'n drop items to equip them or double click to use/equip. It's not that complicated to implement. I think all inventory of the uptodate games out there are based on that functions.

 

[Anachron]

I could easily implement that. I am gonna add it in the next version.
Any other changes?

 

[Thyrael]

Item stacking and stack splitting? You can stack a stackable item by dragging it on a not full stack of the same item type. And for splitting a stack you have to press up arrow and left klick the stack. A dialog prompts up where you can set the number of items you want to split from stack. Than by clicking another slot, the wanted number of items is moved to that slot. For dropping from stack and out of the inventory I use down arrow+click for opening the dialog.

 

[Anachron]

I already have item stacking, you can check the videos of the first post.
(I also have item combining)

And for splitting a stack you have to press up arrow and left klick the stack. A dialog prompts up where you can set the number of items you want to split from stack.

Than by clicking another slot, the wanted number of items is moved to that slot. For dropping from stack and out of the inventory I use down arrow+click for opening the dialog.

Now thats bad. This wasn't meant to be complicated, but easy to use. I might add the auto split when clicking 3 times on the same item which is chargeable. Other then that, stacking is just an optional module in my library.

 

[Deolrin]

Anachron, many games(most notably World of Warcraft) use this kind of stack-splitting systems. I don't see the problem with it.

 

[Anachron]

The problem is that with making this feature, this means this functionality can not easily be added or removed. Its a permanent part of the system then.

Btw, I don't like WoW.

 

[CBX Entertainment]

The problem is that with making this feature, this means this functionality can not easily be added or removed. Its a permanent part of the system then.

then let it be
or make a version with it and one without it (what a waste of working time!)

Btw, I don't like WoW.

lol, totally agree

 

[Anachron]

then let it be
or make a version with it and one without it (what a waste of working time!)

Yeah, you already answered. Its a waste of working time.

lol, totally agree

To great.

 

[Catch_ya]

hey anachron. Is this inventory gonna have charms? like items you have in your bag and then it gives you bonuses. Also maybe you should add a module that allows you to give your "own" bonus and with own bonus i mean that you can increase the value of some variable and add your own text like +15 YOURVARIABLE/VALUE. This could be useful if you have a custom damage, health point, mana point etc system.

Oh and do you got any progress on this ?

 

[Anachron]

hey anachron. Is this inventory gonna have charms? like items you have in your bag and then it gives you bonuses. Also maybe you should add a module that allows you to give your "own" bonus and with own bonus i mean that you can increase the value of some variable and add your own text like +15 YOURVARIABLE/VALUE. This could be useful if you have a custom damage, health point, mana point etc system.

Already implemented. / Makeable with using one of my modules which are already working.

Oh and do you got any progress on this ?

Not until yet, but I'll work on it later this day.

 

[Catch_ya]

good because that module is really important for me..

 

[Anachron]

Well, when you add items to the system, you can attach ANY function on ANY event.
This means you can hook when the item is being picked, dropped, used or pawned.

 

[Catch_ya]

i was more thinking if it was possible to do something like this:

        set ci = CreateCustomItem('ratf')
        [set ci.YOURVALUE = x]

but else i can just detect when equipped and then add my bonuses and then remove then when it gets unequipped.

 

[Anachron]

Wehrm, I made a module for that. Module is called CIItemInfo. There you store all the information you need to. It has a textmacro so you can add info with one line, so you can put any value into it. So yes, you can do that too.

But you can then hook the item events, meaning you can check for your setted value and print it, use it or change the game in any way!

 

[Catch_ya]

oh thanks now i understand it. good luck

 

[Anachron]

Luck? With what?

Any other stuff you need?

 

[Catch_ya]

luck with getting not that many / no bugs.
hmm i cant really think of anything now but if i get an idea or something i will inform you

 

[CBX Entertainment]

the health/any other bonus in percentage
and hero level based bonus (like 50% or herolevel as hp)

 

[Catch_ya]

you mean like the diablo feature ? i think something like. 5 defense ( based on character level ) so you can say like i.defcl = 5. Now it will add 5 bonus defense per character level.
def = defense
cl = character level

also maybe something like: 300% bonus damage to UNITCLASS. classes is like worker, tauren, town hall, ward etc..

 

[Deolrin]

Hmm. So it is done? And if so, it means that a new version of D3W is about to be released?

 

[CBX Entertainment]

you mean like the diablo feature ? i think something like. 5 defense ( based on character level ) so you can say like i.defcl = 5. Now it will add 5 bonus defense per character level.
def = defense
cl = character level

also maybe something like: 300% bonus damage to UNITCLASS. classes is like worker, tauren, town hall, ward etc..

yeah like that!

and the 300% damage is a good idea aswell
but it kinda requires a damage system and that should not belong here... EDIT: well, it belongs to the diablo map

 

[Catch_ya]

maybe he could just include something like LightLeaklessDamageDetection system in the map just for test.. he could just put it in another folder

 

[Anachron]

If I use dd-systems I will use Dusks IDDS.
Anyway, its not fully done. However, next week I'll start implementing the D3W skin.

 

[CBX Entertainment]

i kinda found a way how to do the percentual health bonus
but im not gonna tell you, since i will probably use it for my own project (its open source anyway)

 

[Anachron]

Excuse me? Earth-Fury made a library which I am already using, its from wc3c.net.

 

[Na_Dann_Ma_GoGo]

Hmm is it really worth all that effort? I mean in the video you showed you had tons of triggers just for this one system. For my Diablo 3 map I decided to keep it rather simple.
Because after all, if you have an epic Inventory System you actually need items, that are worth it. I mean it couldn't hurt that much of course but... there are other thinks I think you should concentrate on. (Like replacing all pathing blocker destructables with doodads to improve performance or making the creeps more interesting by adding unique abilities to them.)

Though it of course won't hurt if you got a nice inventory that doesn't bug and is easy to handle.

 

[Anachron]

Dude, this thread is about the inventory only. We are also adding more good stuff, like vJass spells and such, but this is only for the inventory
And because its getting open-source, its worth it!

 

[redmarine]

Dude, this thread is about the inventory only. We are also adding more good stuff, like vJass spells and such, but this is only for the inventory
And because its getting open-source, its worth it!

It already is open-sourced but since it is so huge we have to optimize the map. People can simply request a open-sourced version whenever they like.

 

[CBX Entertainment]

Excuse me? Earth-Fury made a library which I am already using, its from wc3c.net.

oh really.... well... shit happens then

It already is open-sourced but since it is so huge we have to optimize the map. People can simply request a open-sourced version whenever they like.

wouldn't it be easier to just add a link to the description, instead of sending it to each person that requests it?

 

[Catch_ya]

sorry for offtopic but with open source you mean a non-protected map ?

 

[CBX Entertainment]

sorry for offtopic but with open source you mean a non-protected map ?

yessss

 

[Catch_ya]

oh thanks. I have always been wondering what it exactly means.
btw Anachron except some suggestions soon!

Suggestion:
what about adding something called "enchanced damage" (in percent)
it could be like:
it.edmg = 150 // this will be +150% of the weapon damage in bonus.
so it could be: weapon damage base = 5 now this item have 150% enchanced damage then it will have 12.5 damage instead of 5
this could also be useful for defense

EDIT: another suggestion
you must include Rune Words. If you dont know what this is then tell me

EDIT: another again
i call X% life stolen per hit.
its like life leech

 

[CloudMax]

Hmm is it really worth all that effort? I mean in the video you showed you had tons of triggers just for this one system. For my Diablo 3 map I decided to keep it rather simple.
Because after all, if you have an epic Inventory System you actually need items, that are worth it. I mean it couldn't hurt that much of course but... there are other thinks I think you should concentrate on. (Like replacing all pathing blocker destructables with doodads to improve performance or making the creeps more interesting by adding unique abilities to them.)

Though it of course won't hurt if you got a nice inventory that doesn't bug and is easy to handle.

Yay, someone finally asked such a question, and i actually have a perfect answer for this.
So, here we go.
Okay, this system is being created by anachron as a open source system, and it will probably be used by many people, not only the d3w team, thats why he want feedback on what to add, even if its not a diablo feature.

What makes your map unique, its that your one is more simple, while we do our best to actually recreate the elements of diablo 3. And that is where our maps gets different, you keep the warcraft 3 elements, while adding that diablo 3 elements to it, while we try to replace the wc3 elements with diablo 3 elements. (You would probably complain on our spells by now, but we know that they really suck, the problem is that the guy that made the spells for us just dissapered..)

And yeah, you are totally right about the items there
But currently, im actually trying to find a way to make items more important as you make it through the map, and making them more interesting at the same time.

And finally, yes, this system will probably have far less bugs then my inventory system ever had when its released. If any bugs at all ^_^

Thanks for the feedback! have been a while since we got some real stuff to talk about

 

[Anachron]

oh thanks. I have always been wondering what it exactly means.
btw Anachron except some suggestions soon!

Suggestion:
what about adding something called "enchanced damage" (in percent)
it could be like:
it.edmg = 150 // this will be +150% of the weapon damage in bonus.
so it could be: weapon damage base = 5 now this item have 150% enchanced damage then it will have 12.5 damage instead of 5
this could also be useful for defense

Could be added by user.

EDIT: another suggestion
you must include Rune Words. If you dont know what this is then tell me

Already requested by LTGH.

EDIT: another again
i call X% life stolen per hit.
its like life leech

Can also be done by user.

I have decided to create some new interfaces for hooking (un)equipment events.
Also, I've decided to introduce a new orb module.

Btw, I've updated the inventory. Now the slots have fitting items and I've redone the item content helper system. Now you can easily add and modify my content systems for item holding.