Tower Survivors

[deepstrasz]

Quite a creative and smooth TD. Good use of core game mechanics and RNG. Small UI elements make it really enjoyable too.

Approved.

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[maddeem]

One of the most popular games on b.net and it doesn't get a directors cut lol

 

[Antares]

One of the most popular games on b.net and it doesn't get a directors cut lol

Popular maps can get honored with Hosted Projects, but I don't think Director's Cut is supposed to be about popularity.

 

[Wind_w]

How to run it in an older version of Wc3?

 

[Nethalythic]

How to run it in an older version of Wc3?

The map relies on the current version, so you can't.

 

[The J]

Easily one of the best Warcraft 3 maps ever created.

 

[kodolis]

good map

 

[Ra7mani]

can u plz make it for 1.26a for game ranger

 

[Nethalythic]

I can't as stated above, it relies on things added in later patches

 

[derhyer]

Love this map, however there's a glitch with the "Glaive Thrower".

It simply disappears after buying another glaive weapon.

 

[Nethalythic]

Love this map, however there's a glitch with the "Glaive Thrower".

It simply disappears after buying another glaive weapon.

I need more than that, what disappears? The weapon stops firing? I can't even fathom what would cause this "disappearance" to happen, let alone what it means.

 

[derhyer]

I need more than that, what disappears? The weapon stops firing? I can't even fathom what would cause this "disappearance" to happen, let alone what it means.

As if I never purchased it, never fires/displays again. And based on the damage report after the map it seems like it never firing seems to be the case.

I purchase a Glaive Thrower, which obviously has a 1200 range attack and should always be firing. Upon buying a spell glaive, it just neve fires again.

 

[Nethalythic]

As if I never purchased it, never fires/displays again. And based on the damage report after the map it seems like it never firing seems to be the case.

I purchase a Glaive Thrower, which obviously has a 1200 range attack and should always be firing. Upon buying a spell glaive, it just neve fires again.

I can't replicate this at all, and I really doubt the code somehow... corrupts? in such a specific way as to only cause a specific weapon being purchased (an ability being cast) to remove a specific unit type from the map or cause it to just not acquire targets. I think this is an imagined bug, sorry.

 

[pepsi4]

Hello i have some questions and suggestions.
1. Discord server, map is quite popular
2. Area and glaives challenges seems very hard or even impossible, (there is only 3 glaive weapons, 2 of them are 300 range, I've made like 50 attempts and still nothing)
3. Knifes (area damage) seems pretty weak for 5k weapon

 

[Nethalythic]

Hello i have some questions and suggestions.
1. Discord server, map is quite popular
2. Area and glaives challenges seems very hard or even impossible, (there is only 3 glaive weapons, 2 of them are 300 range, I've made like 50 attempts and still nothing)
3. Knifes (area damage) seems pretty weak for 5k weapon

1) I think the one we have already is fine.
2) They're very doable, and meant to be a bit harder.
3) It's quite strong, not weak

 

[kadakash1]

Would you consider doing a potato mode where half the unit spawns but with double HP so the 2010 hardware peasants like me can survive the frame drops after 10 mins?

 

[Naikat]

Can you get skins while playing on single player? I survived over 13mins while only using piercing damage, but I didn't get the skin or the survive over 12mins one. Do you have you be online to acquired skins

 

[Nethalythic]

Can you get skins while playing on single player? I survived over 13mins while only using piercing damage, but I didn't get the skin or the survive over 12mins one. Do you have you be online to acquired skins

Yes, I decided to encourage playing online for it, you can't really win or lose in single player either, and you could just use cheats, I should make it clearer ingame though I know

 

[Nethalythic]

Would you consider doing a potato mode where half the unit spawns but with double HP so the 2010 hardware peasants like me can survive the frame drops after 10 mins?

The problem is this would change the balance of the weapons, I did recently remove the swarming enemy spawns so the lag should be better, other than that I just need to optimize things but there's a limit to how much I can do with the time I spend on the map as I also need to work on other things

 

[kadakash1]

The problem is this would change the balance of the weapons, I did recently remove the swarming enemy spawns so the lag should be better, other than that I just need to optimize things but there's a limit to how much I can do with the time I spend on the map as I also need to work on other things

Yeah I tought that a bit after posting the comment, you'd have to reduce everything by half and would be a ton of work.
Still I love I could play the map, after 10 min I literally get less than 10 fps
I hope you come up with something to fix those, unfortunately I think my pc is so ass no matter the fix it would still lag, it's just a matter of unit quantity

 

[whyneedusername]

Well made map, pretty fun and engaging, with great replayability thanks to being heavily rng and luck dependent. But aside from normal speed being too slow and way too many hosts play at normal speed, I'd say there is serious flaw in adding challenges to this map.

Adding challenges to a luck dependent game is not a good decision. Might as well call it a luck test. Sometimes I encounter idiots that call me stupid because I died first in some games that I was doing difficult challenges in, or idiots that yap about how they are so good and smart that they get few losses (lol). Its pretty easy to win or get last stand if you aren't locking yourself in challenges. No player doing a challenge likes getting flamed by some idiots who dont realize that doing a challenge means getting disadvantaged and it's easier to lose.

If possible, challenges should be changed into randomly selected or player-specified, and each player gets increased probability of getting weapons/upgrades that satisfy their own challenge.

 

[Nethalythic]

Well made map, pretty fun and engaging, with great replayability thanks to being heavily rng and luck dependent. But aside from normal speed being too slow and way too many hosts play at normal speed, I'd say there is serious flaw in adding challenges to this map.

Adding challenges to a luck dependent game is not a good decision. Might as well call it a luck test. Sometimes I encounter idiots that call me stupid because I died first in some games that I was doing difficult challenges in, or idiots that yap about how they are so good and smart that they get few losses (lol). Its pretty easy to win or get last stand if you aren't locking yourself in challenges. No player doing a challenge likes getting flamed by some idiots who dont realize that doing a challenge means getting disadvantaged and it's easier to lose.

If possible, challenges should be changed into randomly selected or player-specified, and each player gets increased probability of getting weapons/upgrades that satisfy their own challenge.

1) Player 1 (Red) decides the game speed, so you can host games and set the speed yourself. I recommend playing the speed you want and letting other people play the speed they want.

2) Majority of players enjoy challenges, players enjoying the map is a good thing. They are optional, do not play them if you don't like the concept.

3) I can't change the behaviour of people playing the map.

4) Making the active challenge random would be horrible. Players would get frustrated and constantly leave lobbies trying to get the right challenge they want. I can't see any reason to doing this.

5) Players inherently decide their challenge by simply doing the challenge they choose.

6) The point of a restrictive challenge is to restrict yourself, if you make up for the restrictions there's no challenge. It'd also be a lot of work to add in a system to control probability of things that way and maintain it for future challenges.

 

[gb916]

how do I create a game at 150? I was host, but it didn't give me an option to change speed

 

[Villagerino]

Dynamic, addictive, with learning curve and constant development. One of the best maps out there!

 

[Villagerino]

how do I create a game at 150? I was host, but it didn't give me an option to change speed

You need to type "1.5" during the countdown. Some other possible variations, IIRC, are "150%", "x1.5", "fast". You can also join the Discord channel to follow the changelogs, post your best times, take tips and find other useful info