Squiggy's Gallery

[Linaze]

I don't support anyone. But I would like justice to be done more than anything else. If Squiggy is guilty, then he should receive the fitting punishment. In other scenarios, other consequences would have to follow, of course.

 

[Naze]

I don't support anyone. But I would like justice to be done more than anything else. If Squiggy is guilty, then he should receive the fitting punishment. In other scenarios, other consequences would have to follow, of course.

Quoted for truth, as I did not fully mentioned my opinion in my previous post.

 

[TheBlooddancer]

But.. A punishment? For what? Making drawings?

Its not like he submitted them, or something.
If somebody re-painted Mona Lisa, would you guys go all "U R STEALA!"?

 

[Pyritie]

Its not like he submitted them, or something.
If somebody re-painted Mona Lisa, would you guys go all "U R STEALA!"?

People repaint her all the time. But remember that Da Vinci has been dead for a long while now so he no longer has any copyright claims.

Damn lawyers.

 

[Naze]

But.. A punishment? For what? Making drawings?

Its not like he submitted them, or something.
If somebody re-painted Mona Lisa, would you guys go all "U R STEALA!"?

No if he says something like:

"Hey all, this is a RE-COLOURING, here is the original work >> link <<"

 

[Ash]

Hey, hey, hey, he traced some, if not all of his images from other people's work, claimed it as his own work and didn't even mentioned that there was an original piece, that he was copying/tracing from. How he did not broke any rules?

What is considered THEFT?
Here is a list of what the Hive consider as theft:

* Using images found from the internet to be used as stock images within artwork. You must have permission or mention the author and/or where you found the stock images.

Pretty easy to understand the situation, huh?

As I've said, provide me with the Image source and I'll tell you if it's theft or not. If you want me to be really pedantic, the actual definition of theft is as follows:

"A person is guilty of theft, if he dishonestly appropriates property belonging to another with the intention of permanently depriving the other of it"

What squiggy has done is not theft, as nothing has been stolen. What has happened, if anything, is a breach of Copyright. If you'd like me to be even more pedantic, then I'll tell you that the Hive is breaching copyright law, too--however, I'll leave that for a later discussion.

Squiggy has not 'stolen'--as you and Wulf refer to it as--anything, nor has he passed anything that isn't his off as his own work. He drew the images, being it tracing or not.

I'm almost certain he hasn't expressly said that he owns creative copyright over the images, nor that he created the images himself. He has then, in that sense, done nothing wrong.

 

[TheBlooddancer]

You can't link the real picture, nub

Edit; Squiggy, we don't support you for pr0n. Trust me, it only takes a googlesearch.
We support you for the whole guy you are. Not only the drawing-part of you.

 

[Elenai]

Squiggy, have you traced any of the artwork?

If so, I'll make a deal with you.

Your thread will remain open and etc, etc, if you give some form of basic credit to the original artists. If you can't find them, make a disclaimer of some sort.

Since this is just tracing, and not a blatant case of ripping, or "taking an image from DA and saying it's yours", I'll take the lenient road.

But ONLY if you place credits or disclaimers on the art that was traced.

I believe this is a fair judgement, much better than closing the thread and neg-rep.

I will also expect that you make "your own" art work from now on, without tracing please

 

[Naze]

What squiggy has done is not theft, as nothing has been stolen. What has happened, if anything, is a breach of Copyright. If you'd like me to be even more pedantic, then I'll tell you that the Hive is breaching copyright law, too--however, I'll leave that for a later discussion.

Squiggy has not 'stolen'--as you and Wulf refer to it as--anything, nor has he passed anything that isn't his off as his own work. He drew the images, being it tracing or not.

Okay, I see your point.

I'm almost certain he hasn't expressly said that he owns creative copyright over the images, nor that he created the images himself. He has then, in that sense, done nothing wrong.

But he didn't said that there was an original work. He just posted it here and said something like "bump".

He didn't claimed as his work, but he also didn't mentioned the original work, what is wrong.

I think that an infraction is, maybe, too much, but he can take this as a warning, and mention the original work next time. What do you think about it?

 

[TheBlooddancer]

Elenai's post is what's rule, from now on. We must just wait for Squiggy to reply.

 

[Ash]

Well, I agree with what Elenai's said.

Ignorance isn't a defence, either, though. When asked about tracing, or using things as a reference, Squiggy said that he did. He didn't try to hide anything, he didn't say that he made it, he didn't claim they'd copied him; he didn't deny having used other peoples work.

Think of it this way; this skin doesn't say that it is based on Warhammer 40K, should we pursue exactly the same case with the creator of said skin because he didn't give the original authors credit?

 

[Squiggy]

Sheesh - due to the fact that I got personal business going on which is a 'bit' more imporant as this drama, do whatever you want.
Only tell you this: Werewulf should have stayed with her old name as she's ripping everything into slices and I bet she'll accuse me in further cases just for the lulz

 

[Naze]

Sheesh - due to the fact that I got personal business going on which is a 'bit' more imporant as this drama, do whatever you want.
Only tell you this: Werewulf should have stayed with her old name as she's ripping everything into slices and I bet she'll accuse me in further cases just for the lulz

Since you agree in linking/mentioning the original work in future situations...

 

[TheDivineBoss]

The weird thing is, it's often sad a person who spend much time on his art, that the others wont believe he made it.

 

[Misha]

as i see...... there ain't enough support here. werewulf has made her point, squiggy has his, Ash too. now it only needs to be locked. better than un-ending drama.
~thread Wanna-be closed~
~Misha~

 

[TheBlooddancer]

There is support, and this will keep going as it is, if Squiggy adds credits. Else, nothing.

 

[terradont]

The weird thing is, it's often sad a person who spend much time on his art, that the others wont believe he made it.

True that

 

[Ash]

Elenai's said what he's said, people should stop being stupid and actually read what has been posted.

Squiggy's moved his thread to HIVEChan, as a final result.

 

[redmarine]

My try: http://www.hiveworkshop.com/forums/members/138637-albums1106-picture7963.html

Here

 

[Eccho]

Not especially ecchi though Is that socks or shoes she is wearing? Also, you forgot the knees.

 

[redmarine]

Not especially ecchi though Is that socks or shoes she is wearing? Also, you forgot the knees.

Shoes. Meh, I know about the knees but I don't want to fix it.

 

[LiOneSS]

Shoes. Meh, I know about the knees but I don't want to fix it.

DO NOT hijack other people's threads, make your own one, kthx.

 

[Eccho]

Lio, he is not the only one who did it.

 

[redmarine]

DO NOT hijack other people's threads, make your own one, kthx.

I told him that I wanted to show him my work and I'm not trying to hijack anything.

 

[Squiggy]

So..

Some of you won't believe me and go rampage.. well I don't care about that

This is made by myself

 

[Pyritie]

I want to see construction lines

 

[Squiggy]

Well that could get a bit difficult.
In fact, I don't have pictures of them.

 

[Pyritie]

Take them next time then