Age of Warcraft Mod, Demo installer

[Mr Hawk]

This Mod is amazing!

 

[Fugrim]

IT IS HERE! Time for some testing and feedback on this masterpiece!

 

[VORIAKURD]

great job

 

[Krom]

Great ! I know it's a bit early but you know when others factions will come ? Theramore, dwarfs, darkspear, forsaken etc...

Do you have a roadmap or not at all for now ?

 

[Darious]

Great ! I know it's a bit early but you know when others factions will come ? Theramore, dwarfs, darkspear, forsaken etc...

Do you have a roadmap or not at all for now ?

We can't give an exact date, but they will come out soon. Together with some quality of life changes

 

[lichao001486]

Good job.

 

[BigChaw]

Great job! One question. Do you plan with these factions create whole new custom campaigns? Thank you for you hard work and passion.

 

[Darious]

Great job! One question. Do you plan with these factions create whole new custom campaigns? Thank you for you hard work and passion.

We plan to do a soft rework of the campaign by incorporating our new factions, abilities, and heroes. While we will make some changes to the maps, we aim to preserve the original campaign's feel.

 

[lichao001486]

And Can AOW and CSW be installed simultaneously to Warcraft 3 folder?

 

[Darious]

And Can AOW and CSW be installed simultaneously to Warcraft 3 folder?

Of course, they can coexist.

 

[Prikjirik]

Good job keep it up.

 

[Charis]

Love it, can't wait for the other factions....

 

[Okilak]

Nice job! Is there any thought on making available for other melee maps besides the ones currently in the AoW folder? Like some popular 4v4 Maps currently in the map pool?

 

[Darious]

Nice job! Is there any thought on making available for other melee maps besides the ones currently in the AoW folder? Like some popular 4v4 Maps currently in the map pool?

Of course, you are always welcome to make suggestions in our discord server.

 

[MogulKahn]

Fundations are there. Now you need to work on actually differentiating these races with unique abilities, instead of majority of units just being skins for the same WC3 units.

 

[lichao001486]

I found two ice troll models. Maybe you can use them in AOW.

Ice Troll Cavalry

The Ice Trolls on the world Talitrim had managed to tame the Frost Lions and Mammoths of their snowy home and now proudly ride them into battle Edit: Updated the Icons Do Not Edit Without My Permission Or Redistribute On Hive or Other Sites

www.hiveworkshop.com

 

[Darious]

Fundations are there. Now you need to work on actually differentiating these races with unique abilities, instead of majority of units just being skins for the same WC3 units.

Well, we have our roadmap in our map development post, feel free to check out what we have in store for our project.

 

[lichao001486]

I found that Zandalari Trolls's Direhorn units are similar to Orc's Kodo units. I think that Direhorn should be aggressive than Kodo.Their main role should be fighting rather than boosting morale.

 

[Darious]

I found that Zandalari Trolls's Direhorn units are similar to Orc's Kodo units. I think that Direhorn should be aggressive than Kodo.Their main role should be fighting rather than boosting morale.

Thank you for your feedback on our mod. To help us consolidate all feedback in one place, please join our Discord server.

The Zandalari Trolls' Direhorn shares the same stats as the Orcs' Kodo beast because, in this release, we based their gameplay on one of the original faction's gameplay, as stated in our description: "Initially, these new factions will offer gameplay similar to the original four factions, with further diversification planned based on community feedback in subsequent releases."

 

[lichao001486]

Thank you for your feedback on our mod. To help us consolidate all feedback in one place, please join our Discord server.

The Zandalari Trolls' Direhorn shares the same stats as the Orcs' Kodo beast because, in this release, we based their gameplay on one of the original faction's gameplay, as stated in our description: "Initially, these new factions will offer gameplay similar to the original four factions, with further diversification planned based on community feedback in subsequent releases."

I see. And I suggest giving the Direhorns a collision skill. And I will join your Discord server to feedback.
Is new version uploaded? Will the demo be continuously updated?

 

[Darious]

I see. And I suggest giving the Direhorns a collision skill. And I will join your Discord server to feedback.
Is new version uploaded? Will the demo be continuously updated?

Yeah there is a new version of the Demo, and it will be continuously updated.

 

[Adiniz / Imemi]

It's an interesting project, but I really feel it lacks direction. Right now, it's essentially a "look-pretty" project with nice implementation and cool models, but when it comes to actual gameplay, it's pretty lackluster. I recommend being more creative with your ability design. Triggering new abilities is always cool, but that's not necessary, you can do cool things in the Object Editor as well, like turning stats negative or positive to create new effects for existing abilities. Like, imagine a blood elf hero having an Immolation that heals allies instead of damaging enemies.

It's a nice start, but I recommend stepping out of your comfort zone and trying new things to add to the races. If you ever want to, feel free to contact me on Discord, I'm happy to provide any ideas, support or triggering help.

 

[Darious]

It's an interesting project, but I really feel it lacks direction. Right now, it's essentially a "look-pretty" project with nice implementation and cool models, but when it comes to actual gameplay, it's pretty lackluster. I recommend being more creative with your ability design. Triggering new abilities is always cool, but that's not necessary, you can do cool things in the Object Editor as well, like turning stats negative or positive to create new effects for existing abilities. Like, imagine a blood elf hero having an Immolation that heals allies instead of damaging enemies.

It's a nice start, but I recommend stepping out of your comfort zone and trying new things to add to the races. If you ever want to, feel free to contact me on Discord, I'm happy to provide any ideas, support or triggering help.

I believe you haven't seen our map development post about what we have in store for our project. Regarding abilities, we have created numerous custom abilities for our heroes, such as Cleave, Avenging Wrath, Execution Sentence, numerous summoning units for hunters, new Stampedes to match the factions, Kill Shot, Time Reverse Heals, Polymorph for heroes, Avatar of Rezan as a unique ability for the Zandalari Troll, Crusader Aura, Berserk abilities for heroes, and many more.

Additionally, we have created new heroes with unique abilities, such as new Spell Breaker heroes, Assassins, new Fire Mage heroes with unique skills, Healers that are mainly support heroes, and a Seer hero for Tauren with unique abilities.

So, yes, we have created many things, and more will follow. As we said, we must have a strong foundation to move forward in creating new gameplay. Feel free to make suggestions on our Discord server for implementing new things.

 

[Fugrim]

It's an interesting project, but I really feel it lacks direction. Right now, it's essentially a "look-pretty" project with nice implementation and cool models, but when it comes to actual gameplay, it's pretty lackluster. I recommend being more creative with your ability design. Triggering new abilities is always cool, but that's not necessary, you can do cool things in the Object Editor as well, like turning stats negative or positive to create new effects for existing abilities. Like, imagine a blood elf hero having an Immolation that heals allies instead of damaging enemies.

It's a nice start, but I recommend stepping out of your comfort zone and trying new things to add to the races. If you ever want to, feel free to contact me on Discord, I'm happy to provide any ideas, support or triggering help.

I am curious from what direction does your comment come?
To say the project is lack luster is quite strong so what exactly do you mean?
I've been folowing this mod from quite the early stages and it's a great take to warcraft making it more similar to Age of Empires style of many races without making them overpower one from the other keeps the same warcraft feeling but with a more flavor style and it's just the begining from what they shown us.
Imagine the potential all these races have for custom campaigns of the warcraft lore and beyond.

 

[Adiniz / Imemi]

I am curious from what direction does your comment come?
To say the project is lack luster is quite strong so what exactly do you mean?
I've been folowing this mod from quite the early stages and it's a great take to warcraft making it more similar to Age of Empires style of many races without making them overpower one from the other keeps the same warcraft feeling but with a more flavor style and it's just the begining from what they shown us.
Imagine the potential all these races have for custom campaigns of the warcraft lore and beyond.

It doesn't come from any particular direction more than that of a fellow mapsmith. It has potential, but is ultimately a quantity-over-quality project, and the races barely have any distinction between each other other than nice model selection.

I recommend reading these guides on custom race creation/guidelines, and it should explain pretty well in what ways this is lackluster. I don't mean to discourage the creator, that is not my intention at all, this is actually a cool project and has a lot of potential. It just needs a push towards interesting gameplay rather than many races.

Guides:
Design Guide for a Fifth Race
Custom Race Creation: Advanced Mechanics
Guidelines for Making a Custom Race

 

[MichaelVanBrunn]

Been subscribed to this mod on Moddb for a long time and now just noticed ye released a demo.

Have to say Warcraft III fans been eatin real good lately.

Cheers for the release
and here's to many more updates.

 

[@Maxim]

Amazing! (•̪ o •̪)

 

[Vindex]

Hello, nice work! Is there a way to use only new models?
For example, if I install your package in a non-warcraft folder and only copy the model files?

Thank you

 

[Darious]

Hello, nice work! Is there a way to use only new models?
For example, if I install your package in a non-warcraft folder and only copy the model files?

Thank you

Theoretically yes as our assets are unlocked. But its not ideal. We going to release a guide in the following days on how to idealy use our models (with crediting us if you use our models of course).

 

[polatgeyik]

Amazing job @Darious @deme3s

 

[Fugrim]

It doesn't come from any particular direction more than that of a fellow mapsmith. It has potential, but is ultimately a quantity-over-quality project, and the races barely have any distinction between each other other than nice model selection.

I recommend reading these guides on custom race creation/guidelines, and it should explain pretty well in what ways this is lackluster. I don't mean to discourage the creator, that is not my intention at all, this is actually a cool project and has a lot of potential. It just needs a push towards interesting gameplay rather than many races.

Guides:
Design Guide for a Fifth Race
Custom Race Creation: Advanced Mechanics
Guidelines for Making a Custom Race

I see your point and the idea behind it.
And yea it has a lot of benefits for the gameplay diversity if each races has different units with different stats & abilities or different ways to used them.
I have seen it in other projects like SevenBlood works. The undead in particular was crazy fun to play they were unique from other races.
Another great example (never played but watched Grubby play it) Warhammer: Eternal Strife (Melee)

But this also comes with challenges when it comes to not making any of them OP compared to others.
And let us remember there will be even more different races coming
Trying to make them all unique and not OP will take even more to develop.
Plus it's still not yet fully released who know what guys might do after the races are all implemented.

The races do feel like Orcs (reskin) Humans (reskin) and so on and makes everything be the same as original warcraft which I see the benefit in it.
We do have the new heroes which make it interesting which their different abilities.
I do believe that the main objective of the mod is to give the options of using new races but keeping the core gameplay of warcraft VS matches the same.
This way you just hop right in and play.And instead of looking at the same races you get this,
And again with so many races coming the potential for other projects (custom campaigns) in reforged will grow.

I have yet to start my feedback on the races animations but will come soon little by little.
That's my specialty as a warcraft reforged modeler and i'l have my own negative feedback for sure there

 

[lichao001486]

Look forward to Amani Trolls And Centaurs race.

 

[Rokoltira]

yaye

 

[Sunzero]

Question is it possible to keep both baseline WC3 and this mod or is it full conversion mod ?

 

[deme3s]

Question is it possible to keep both baseline WC3 and this mod or is it full conversion mod ?

The base game remains the same, you gain access to our mod only by playing our maps.

 

[Sunzero]

The base game remains the same, you gain access to our mod only by playing our maps.

Is it a separate client or the same client ?

I apologies of this a dumb question Deme3s

 

[Ace.d.reaper]

Awesome work guys! Keep up the good work!!

 

[deme3s]

Is it a separate client or the same client ?

I apologies of this a dumb question Deme3s

It is the same client, no exe change or something.

 

[lichao001486]

Be patient. Good things come to those who wait.

 

[Sphee]

Mod feels amazing so far! Tho from what I'm getting so far; the only changes i've noticed is heroes being reshuffled here and there.
Here are a couple of my other opinions, questions and suggestions(in no particular order);
1. Other Races having a PotM honestly made me realize how good(broken?) she is on another race that is more likely to spam ranged units that are better than what NE can offer. In the same vein, I love that certain heroes in each faction have different spells that arguably make them worse than their vanilla counterpart. For example, the TC on the orcs having thunder clap instead of a war stomp.
2. This is only my opinion but; maybe make at least the taurens' spirit walkers able to revive other tauren units too? They "invented" the thing, they might as well get a slightly better form of the spell.
3. Are there plans to include the vanilla races (wc3 races without modification) into the mod?
4. Are there plans to have this mod to be specifically for your maps alone without having to install the mod? Maybe a modpack for the resources can also be in the mod download file for ease of download and whatnot.
5. I'd like an option to add the ability for the AI to also have a random faction (if it's not already a WoP)

 

[deme3s]

Mod feels amazing so far! Tho from what I'm getting so far; the only changes i've noticed is heroes being reshuffled here and there.
Here are a couple of my other opinions, questions and suggestions(in no particular order);
1. Other Races having a PotM honestly made me realize how good(broken?) she is on another race that is more likely to spam ranged units that are better than what NE can offer. In the same vein, I love that certain heroes in each faction have different spells that arguably make them worse than their vanilla counterpart. For example, the TC on the orcs having thunder clap instead of a war stomp.
2. This is only my opinion but; maybe make at least the taurens' spirit walkers able to revive other tauren units too? They "invented" the thing, they might as well get a slightly better form of the spell.
3. Are there plans to include the vanilla races (wc3 races without modification) into the mod?
4. Are there plans to have this mod to be specifically for your maps alone without having to install the mod? Maybe a modpack for the resources can also be in the mod download file for ease of download and whatnot.
5. I'd like an option to add the ability for the AI to also have a random faction (if it's not already a WoP)

Thanks for the feedback. You are welcome to join our Discord server to make further suggestions. It will help us keep the feedback in one place.
1. Yes, we want to experiment with different hero builds as the game is heavily hero-based, thus unlocking new strategies.
2. That is a nice suggestion, and it is something that we have already considered. It will most likely be implemented in the next major patch where we introduce our racial-faction traits.
3. No, but there will be some factions that resemble the original, like Theramore, for example.
4. No, the maps need the assets, and that can only be achieved that way.
5. The option is already there.

 

[Hegucz]

i have an question. Im downloading the mod right now and its really slow because its kind of old and its after my brothers and my parents wont let me buy anything online and because of that i have an old and fake version of warcraft 3 for free so will it work even if its not the real version of the game? If not is there any way how to change that? I really like the concept of this and would love to play this. Thank you

 

[Darious]

i have an question. Im downloading the mod right now and its really slow because its kind of old and its after my brothers and my parents wont let me buy anything online and because of that i have an old and fake version of warcraft 3 for free so will it work even if its not the real version of the game? If not is there any way how to change that? I really like the concept of this and would love to play this. Thank you

Thank you for liking the consept of our mod! But I cannot help you with what you ask, in order for you to play our mod you must have the 1.36.2 version of Warcraft 3 reforged.

 

[Malmgrev]

It's an interesting project, but I really feel it lacks direction. Right now, it's essentially a "look-pretty" project with nice implementation and cool models, but when it comes to actual gameplay, it's pretty lackluster. I recommend being more creative with your ability design. Triggering new abilities is always cool, but that's not necessary, you can do cool things in the Object Editor as well, like turning stats negative or positive to create new effects for existing abilities. Like, imagine a blood elf hero having an Immolation that heals allies instead of damaging enemies.

It's a nice start, but I recommend stepping out of your comfort zone and trying new things to add to the races. If you ever want to, feel free to contact me on Discord, I'm happy to provide any ideas, support or triggering help.

I agree here, the project so far just look like a nice skin with no real substance. Each faction needs to have unique and fleshed out gameplay or this project will surely fail.

Maybe get Imemi to do the gameplay for you while you focus on making models.

 

[Darious]

I agree here, the project so far just look like a nice skin with no real substance. Each faction needs to have unique and fleshed out gameplay or this project will surely fail.

Maybe get Imemi to do the gameplay for you while you focus on making models.

Hi,

Everyone is welcome to use our assets and create their own submod. We have a plan and we intend to stick to it. All are welcome to join our Discord and suggest new gameplay ideas. I believe you have been following us from the start of our mod development and probably have seen what we intend to do with it.

 

[Felhound]

i know this is a dumb question but you need reforged for this right?

 

[Darious]

i know this is a dumb question but you need reforged for this right?

Yeap, you need reforged latest patch.

 

[Hegucz]

Thank you for liking the consept of our mod! But I cannot help you with what you ask, in order for you to play our mod you must have the 1.36.2 version of Warcraft 3 reforged.

Thank you for your reply, but i have another question. I have succesfully installed the mod in my warcraft files and its under the name: retail. inside there are these folders AoW, replaceableTextures, sound, ui, units and webui. I guess thats normal but inside the Aow file are just files named abilities, buildings and units but not the game itself. I apologise if im just stupid and dont know if the game isnt out yet, just these files or I have a wrong version. Thank you.

 

[Sphee]

Thanks for the feedback. You are welcome to join our Discord server to make further suggestions. It will help us keep the feedback in one place.
1. Yes, we want to experiment with different hero builds as the game is heavily hero-based, thus unlocking new strategies.
2. That is a nice suggestion, and it is something that we have already considered. It will most likely be implemented in the next major patch where we introduce our racial-faction traits.
3. No, but there will be some factions that resemble the original, like Theramore, for example.
4. No, the maps need the assets, and that can only be achieved that way.
5. The option is already there.

A couple more feedback and unsaid suggestions;
1. About the racial-faction traits; Personal suggestion besides the taurens able to ressurect other members of their race, maybe make certain upgrades for each faction more powerful by affecting more units? For example, Troll regeneration which is exclusive to the trolls in vanilla (headhunters, witch doctors, batriders) could affect more units or even all? Brutish strength could affect kor'kron elite and raiders, etc. etc.
2. Speaking of, played with the tauren race again, and I noticed a couple of overlapping keybinds for their variant of the Shadow Hunter and Paladin since their ults were basically taken from other heroes. Kindly ignore this if you have already taken note and will roll out a patch fixing this another time.

I shall keep playing the map and say anymore things I notice or just run into.